Board Thread:Official Wiki Discussions/@comment-27231734-20160907171251/@comment-29838289-20160907194335

It doesn't matter who believes I'm right and it doesn't matter who doesn't. I am right. Want to know how I came to that conclusion? Because nobody has been able to disprove me. Not even you. In fact, I don't see why we're even still arguing. You seem to be improvising at this point. You're just saying the same things over and over and your points sound more like excuses than anything else...no offense, of course. Your argument is well-structured. Just....not very well thought out...

See, this is where the HTF fandom went wrong all those years ago. You exclude anyone who disagrees with you. My argument is solid. It uses facts and logic. Everyone who has opposed me has either used statements that are easily disproven, unreliable information, flawed logic or has simply began making up excuses. If I'm not the fandom, then you're not the fandom either. Not one single individual is the fandom. By alienating the beliefs of an entire part of said fandom, you are dividing the fandom into two parts, and actively behaving in a prejudiced manner to the people you've excluded. That simulates the nature of a very toxic fandom. I'm sure you don't want your community to be seen as toxic, do you? This is the level of prejudice that Godawful fandoms like that of Steven Universe, Sonic, My Little Pony, Five Night's at Freddies, Undertale display on a daily basis. Just because the opinions of the many outweigh the opinions of the few doesn't mean that you have the right to exclude that few from what the fandom decides is canon. Kenn said that Flaky could be anything. He means that Flaky's gender isn't meant to be specific. It's meant to be up to interpretation. So, for the majority of the fandom to decide "Screw everyone that thinks differently. Our opinions are more important" is a really toxic way of interpreting this statement...

That being said, saying that the fandom has more authority than the creatures of the HTF universe to dictate what's canon and what isn't is incredibly...well, selfish. I can't really find any other words appropriate enough to explain it, so don't take that as a personal insult. I can see that you're quite clearly an intelligent, genuinely level-headed dude. Your idea of what power the fandom holds, however, is slightly....what's the word..."deluded"? You're basically saying that you own the rights to decide what's what in a universe you didn't even create. If your respect for MondoMedia wasn't abundantly clear, which it is, I would say that your statements about the fandom as a whole paints the community as unappreciative of the effort that goes into the show. Again, please don't take this the wrong way. As I have stated, you're a decent guy. Your views are just a bit questionable.

It's also pretty damn contradictory, as well. When Flaky was confirmed as Female, you all praised the Lord and decided "MondMedia confirmed it. It's canon" But, when the confirmation doesn't correlate with your opinions, you say "WE decide what's canon in this fandom! Not the creators! Us!" And, whereas you supposedly have Mondo's permission, which is a statement I am still to be convinced by, it's still an ultimately poor statement to cough up.

As I have stated, I know fully well that I will lose the vote. But, if I do, that will just prove that the fandom is exactly as toxic as I have stated. Not all the fandom will be that way, of course. But of a majority of it seems to be leaning towards that attitude. Again, you're a decent dude. What you're saying is just sort of foolish.